Who Is The Real Speaker In Prophetic Utterances | The Holy Spirit Or The Prophet – Spiritual Reading

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The thing that the Bible teaches regarding the Inspiration of the Prophets and the Apostles and their utterances, is that the Holy Spirit was the real speaker in the prophetic utterances, that what was said or written was the Holy Spirit’s Word that was upon the Apostle’s tongue, and not the word of the Prophet or Apostle.


This is said in the Bible in so many words, over and over again. For example, in Heb. 3:7 we read: “Wherefore, even as the Holy Spirit saith, To-day if ye shall hear His voice, harden not your hearts, etc.” The author of the epistle to the Hebrews is quoting Ps. 95:7, 8 and says that what the Psalmist is recorded as saying “the Holy Spirit saith.”


Again in Heb. 10:15, 16, we read: “And the Holy Spirit also beareth witness to us; for after He had said, This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord: I will put my laws on their heart, and upon their mind also will I write them.” Now the author of the Epistle to the Hebrews is quoting Jer. 31:33, and he does not hesitate to say that the testimony that Jeremiah there bore is the testimony of the Holy Ghost, that the Holy Ghost was the real speaker.


Again we read in Acts 28:25, 26 that Paul said, “Well spake the Holy Spirit through Isaiah the prophet, unto your fathers, (26) saying, Go thou unto this people and say, By hearing ye shall hear [and shall in no wise understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall in no wise perceive, etc.” Here Paul is quoting Isaiah’s words as recorded in the 6th chapter of Isaiah, the 9th and 10th verses, and he distinctly says that the real speaker was not Isaiah, but “the Holy Spirit” who spoke “through Isaiah the prophet.”


Turning now to the old Testament we read in 2 Sam. 23:2 this assertion by David regarding the things that he said and wrote: “The Spirit of Jehovah spake by me, and his word was upon my tongue.” There can be no mistaking the meaning of these words on the part of any one who goes to the Bible to find out what it really claims and teaches. The Holy Spirit was the real speaker in the prophetic utterance.


It was the Holy Spirit’s utterance that was upon the prophet’s tongue. The prophet was simply the mouth by which the Holy Spirit spoke. Merely as a man, except as the Holy Spirit taught him and used him, the prophet was fallible as other men are fallible, but when the Spirit was upon him, when he was taken up and borne along by the Holy Spirit, then he became infallible in his teachings; for his teachings were not his, but the teachings of the Holy Spirit.


It was God who was then speaking, not the Prophet. For example, Paul merely as a man, even as a Christian man, doubtless had many mistaken notions on many things, and was more or less subject to the ideas and opinions of his time, but when he taught as an Apostle, under the power of the Holy Spirit he was infallible, or rather the Spirit who taught through him was infallible, and the teachings that resulted from the Spirit’s teaching through him, were infallible, as infallible as God.


Common sense demands of us that we carefully distinguish between what Paul may have thought as a man, and what he actually taught as an apostle. In the Bible we have the record of what he taught as an Apostle. Some one may cite as a possible exception to this statement 1 Cor. 7:6, 25, where he says: “But this I say by way of concession, not of commandment. . . . Now concerning virgins, I have no commandment of the Lord, but I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be trustworthy.” 


There are those who think that Paul does not seem to have been sure here that he had the word of the Lord in this particular matter, but that is not the meaning of the passage. The meaning of v. 6 is that his teaching which he had just given was by way of concession to their weakness, and not a commandment as to what they must do.


And the teaching of v. 25 is that the Lord, during His earthly life, had given no commandment on this subject, but that Paul was giving his judgment; but he says distinctly that he was giving it as one who had obtained mercy of the Lord to be trustworthy and furthermore, in the 40th verse of the chapter he distinctly says that in his judgment he had the Spirit of God.


But even allowing that the other interpretation of this passage is the correct one, and that Paul was not absolutely sure in this case that he had the Word of the Lord and the mind of the Lord, that would only show that where Paul was not absolutely sure that he was teaching in the Holy Ghost he was careful to note the fact, and this would only give additional certainty to all other passages that he wrote.


It is sometimes said that Paul taught in his earlier epistles that the Lord would return during his lifetime, and that in this matter he certainly was mistaken. But Paul never taught in his earlier epistles, or any other epistles, he never taught anywhere, that the Lord would return during his lifetime.


This assertion is contrary to fact. He does say in 1 Thess. which was his first epistle, the 4th chapter and 17th verse: “Then we that are alive, that are left, shall together with them (i.e., the believers who had already fallen asleep) be caught up in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” 


He does here put himself in the same class with those who were still alive when he wrote the words. He naturally and necessarily did not include himself with those who had already fallen asleep. In speaking of the Lord’s return he does not say nor hint that he will be still alive when the Lord returns. It is quite probable that Paul did believe at this time that he might be alive when the Lord returned but he never taught that he would be alive.


The attitude of expectancy is the true attitude in all ages for every believer. This was the attitude that Paul took until it was distinctly revealed to him that he would depart before the Lord came. I think it very probable that Paul in the earlier part of his ministry was inclined to believe that he would live until the coming of the Lord, but the Holy Ghost kept him from so teaching, and also kept him from all other errors in his teachings.


Excerpt From – The Fundamental Doctrines Of The Christian Faith By Reuben Archer Torrey.



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The thing that the Bible makes perfectly clear is, that not one single prophetic utterance was of the prophet’s own will (i.e., it was not in any sense merely what he wished to say), but in every instance the Prophet spoke from God, and the Prophet was carried along in the prophetic utterance by the Holy Spirit, regardless of his own will or thought.


We find this stated practically in so many words in 2 Pet. 1:21 where we read: “For no prophecy (literally, not a prophecy) ever came (literally, was brought) by the will of man; but men spake from God being moved (literally, carried along, or borne) by the Holy Spirit.” 


And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

2 Peter 1:19-21

There can be no honest mistaking of the meaning of this language. The Prophet never thought that there was something that needed to be said and therefore said it, but God took possession of the prophet, carried him along in his utterance, by the power of the Holy Spirit, and he spake, not from his own consciousness, and not from his own reasoning, nor from his own intuition, but “from God.” As God’s messenger he spoke what God told him to say.


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The third thing that the Bible makes perfectly clear as to the inspiration of the Prophets and Apostles is, that the revelation made by God through His Holy Spirit to the Prophets was independent of the Prophets’ own thinking, that it was made to them by the Spirit of Christ which was in them, and that they themselves oftentimes did not thoroughly understand the full meaning of what the Spirit was saying through them, and that what they said was a subject of diligent search and inquiry to their own mind as to its meaning.


This comes out very plainly in 1 Pet. 1:10-12, “Concerning which salvation the prophets sought and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come to you; searching what time, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did point unto, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ and the glories that should follow them. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto you, did they minister these things which now have been announced unto you through them that preached the Gospel unto you by the Holy Spirit sent forth from Heaven; which things angels desire to look into.” 


Here again the meaning is as clear as day and inescapable. We are told that the prophets had a revelation made to them by the Holy Spirit, the meaning of which they did not thoroughly comprehend, and that they themselves “sought and searched diligently” as to the meaning of this revelation which was made to them and which they recorded.


The Spirit, through them testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ (e.g. in Isa. 53:3, Ps. 22) and the glories that should follow them. They recorded what the Spirit testified, but what it meant they did not thoroughly understand. It was not merely that their minds were made keen to see things which they would not otherwise see, and which they therefore more or less accurately recorded.


No, there was a very definite revelation, arising not from their own minds at all, but from the Spirit of God Who made the revelation to them and this they recorded, but it was not of themselves to that extent that they themselves wondered as to what its meaning might be. What they recorded was not at all their own thought, it was the thought of the Holy Spirit who spoke through them.


How utterly different this conception is from that which is so persistently taught in many of our colleges and theological seminaries and pulpits,—how utterly different it is from the conception that was taught a week ago to-day in one of the pulpits of our own city.


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In recent times, our world has been plagued with many disasters. The news keeps flowing in from all over the world. There is no place in the world that has not suffered one calamity or another. The intensity and frequency of these events keeps increasing and intensifying. 

Many people have not taken much heed to these Harbingers and signs of our times. Wickedness has intensified. Sin and Idol worship is glorified. Righteousness is frowned upon. Godly living is considered outdated.

Some of the things people do in the dark are unutterable and abominable.

Many people have been told the lie that Heaven and Hell are not real. Unfortunately so many people have accepted this deception and been led astray. Living life recklessly because they don’t believe there is an afterlife.

These are signs of the End times as prophesied in the Bible and yet many people can’t these signs and harbingers because they are blinded by sin and iniquity.

Despite these happenings in the world, we can live with hope and be comforted that where ever we might live, however bad the situation might be, Jesus has us covered and protected. We only need trust him and listen to his Holy Spirit.

The Prophet Hosea said:

“My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6

And Prophet Ezekiel adds:

This is the declaration of the Lord God.
9 I will trouble the hearts of many peoples,
when I bring about your destruction
among the nations,
in countries you do not know.

Ezekiel 32:8-9

I pray that people can finally wake up to the realities of the days. I pray that the Lord will give Knowledge to those who lack it so that they are not ignorant. I pray that people can turn to God and make their robes clean so that when Jesus Christ comes, he will find a clean church that has been washed in his blood and is living righteously. I pray people turn away from shameful and sinful acts. I pray for renewal and conversion of souls. I pray People receive Jesus.

Disease Epidemics and Outbreaks

10 Are there yet the treasures of wickedness
In the house of the wicked,
And the short measure that is an abomination?
11 Shall I count pure those with the wicked scales,
And with the bag of deceitful weights?
12 For her rich men are full of violence,
Her inhabitants have spoken lies,
And their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.
13 “Therefore I will also make you sick by striking you,
By making you desolate because of your sins.
14 You shall eat, but not be satisfied;
Hunger shall be in your midst.
You may carry some away, but shall not save them;
And what you do rescue I will give over to the sword.

Micah 6:10-14

Mudslides

22 “I will rise up against them” — this is the declaration of the Lord of Hosts — “and I will cut off from Babylon her reputation, remnant, offspring, and posterity” — this is the Lord’s declaration. 23 “I will make her a swampland and a region for screech owls, and I will sweep her away with a broom of destruction.”
This is the declaration of the Lord of Hosts.

Isaiah 14:22-23

Fearsome Fires

22 For a fire is kindled in My anger,
And shall burn to the lowest hell;
It shall consume the earth with her increase,
And set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

Deuteronomy 32:22

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6 Upon the wicked He will rain coals;

Fire and brimstone and a burning wind

Shall be the portion of their cup.

Psalms 11:6

Winter Storms and Bomb Cyclones

15 I will destroy the winter house along with the summer house;
The houses of ivory shall perish,
And the great houses shall have an end,”
Says the Lord.

Amos 3:15

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20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:20-21

Malnutrition

15 ‘So it shall be a reproach, a taunt, a lesson, and an astonishment to the nations that are all around you, when I execute judgments among you in anger and in fury and in furious rebukes. I, the Lord, have spoken. 16 When I send against them the terrible arrows of famine which shall be for destruction, which I will send to destroy you, I will increase the famine upon you and cut off your supply of bread. 17 So I will send against you famine and wild beasts, and they will bereave you. Pestilence and blood shall pass through you, and I will bring the sword against you. I, the Lord, have spoken.’ ”

Ezekiel 5:15-17

Earth Quakes

10 The earth quakes before them,
The heavens tremble;
The sun and moon grow dark,
And the stars diminish their brightness.
11 The Lord gives voice before His army,
For His camp is very great;
For strong is the One who executes His word.
For the day of the Lord is great and very terrible;
Who can endure it?

Joel 2:10-11

Floods

28 A flood will carry off his house,
rushing waters on the day of God’s wrath.
29 Such is the fate God allots the wicked,
the heritage appointed for them by God.”

Job 20:28-29

7 The Lord is good,

a refuge in times of trouble.

He cares for those who trust in him,

8 but with an overwhelming flood

he will make an end of Nineveh;

he will pursue his foes into the realm of darkness.

Nahum 1:7-8

Famine and Drought

11 For I called for a drought on the land and the mountains, on the grain and the new wine and the oil, on whatever the ground brings forth, on men and livestock, and on all the labor of your hands.”

Haggai 1:11

Hurricanes

22 With the force of a flood they shall be swept away from before him and be broken, and also the prince of the covenant.

Daniel 11:22

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2 Thus says the Lord:

“Behold, waters rise out of the north,

And shall be an overflowing flood;

They shall overflow the land and all that is in it,

The city and those who dwell within;

Then the men shall cry,

And all the inhabitants of the land shall wail.

Jeremiah 47:2

Hannah

California Thomas Fire, It’s Prophetic And Biblical Significance – The Book Of Amos – Harbingers Of The End Times

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First, I should comment on the Name of the fire, “Thomas Fire”. It reminds me of Biblical Thomas who doubted the resurrection of Jesus Christ and had to first see before he believed.

I don’t know why the Authorities chose to call the fire Thomas but could it be a spiritual hint telling us something about the doubting attitude of people these days concerning Prophesy, the Word of God and Jesus Christ?

27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”
28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

John 20:27-29

Just after reading news of the fires, the spirit of the Lord led me to the Biblical book of Amos: Reading the Passage made me feel chilled.

Could what the Prophet Amos wrote decades ago be what is happening in California today I questioned myself. After all it’s winter and yet the fires keep raging like it was the heat of summer.

It’s not that California doesn’t get fires. It does get fires. What makes Thomas fire different is it’s intensity, magnitude and how long it has persisted. For one reason or another, it’s relentless.

CNN calls the Thomas Fire, the Largest wildfire in California’s Modern History.

“Strong wind blows embers from smoldering trees at the Thomas Fire last week in Montecito, California. (CNN)The Thomas Fire is now the largest wildfire in California’s modern history after torching 273,400 acres. The blaze has surpassed the size of the Cedar Fire near San Diego, which destroyed 273,246 acres”

Anyhow, let’s take a look at the scripture in Amos:

12 Thus says the Lord:
“As a shepherd takes from the mouth of a lion
Two legs or a piece of an ear,
So shall the children of Israel be taken out
Who dwell in Samaria—
In the corner of a bed and on the edge of a couch!
13 Hear and testify against the house of Jacob,”
Says the Lord God, the God of hosts,
14 “That in the day I punish Israel for their transgressions,
I will also visit destruction on the altars of Bethel;
And the horns of the altar shall be cut off
And fall to the ground.
15 I will destroy the winter house along with the summer house;
The houses of ivory shall perish,
And the great houses shall have an end,”
Says the Lord.

Amos 3:12-15

As I contemplated Amos’s words further, I was reminded of a Prophet that Gitardood Weblog recently recommended. She is called Lois Vogel Sharp and she is a deeply spiritual woman with profound insights. I remember her saying somethings about the devastation that is going to come to California. You can watch her Video here to better understand what she predicted could happen in days to come.

LA times reports about how much devastation the Fire has caused in the lives of people living in places where it has raged and roared like a Lion.

“Large stretches of southern California now lie in ruins. In some cases, the fire spread so fast that terrified residents were forced to evacuate without their possessions in the dead of night as smoke surrounded their homes.

“I feel like I’m spinning,” local resident Jeff Jacobson, whose house was mostly burned, told the L.A. Times. “I’m overwhelmed and stressed, which is hard because I need to be clear-minded.”

And Amos Continues to say:

4 Will a lion roar in the forest, when he has no prey?
Will a young lion cry out of his den, if he has caught nothing?
5 Will a bird fall into a snare on the earth, where there is no trap for it?
Will a snare spring up from the earth, if it has caught nothing at all?
6 If a trumpet is blown in a city, will not the people be afraid?
If there is calamity in a city, will not the Lord have done it?

Amos 3:4-6

 I know reading some of these news stories and then tying it in with the Bible can be difficult sometimes.

I know that sometimes it’s easier to be a Thomas and to doubt unless the evidence is presented.

I know to many people the coming back of Jesus seems like a far fetched idea and many are blind to the signs of the end times.

But, could God be telling us something through his Prophets?

Could the News by these Media Houses be just the Evidence that will turn many a doubting Thomas into a believing Thomas?

Surely the Lord God does nothing,
Unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets.
8 A lion has roared!
Who will not fear?
The Lord God has spoken!
Who can but prophesy?

Amos 3:7-8

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